12:17 p.m.
The container experience with podman machine on Windows and mac is not optimal because the
containers are slow. Mac is a Linux-based OS. So, why can't we create native
containers on it as we do on Linux?
That applies to WSL. It's kind of Linux. Why cannot we create native Linux containers
on it without resorting to Podman machine and podman clients?
12:29 p.m.
Macs are BSD-based, not Linux, and therefore do not run the Linux kernel, and therefore
cannot run Podman (or Docker) natively.
- JK
On 7. Sep 2023, at 19.19, Mehdi Haghgoo via Podman
<podman(a)lists.podman.io> wrote:
The container experience with podman machine on Windows and mac is not optimal because
the containers are slow.
Mac is a Linux-based OS. So, why can't we create native containers on it as we do on
Linux?
That applies to WSL. It's kind of Linux. Why cannot we create native Linux containers
on it without resorting to Podman machine and podman clients?
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12:51 p.m.
OS X has a Mach kernel and a BSD user land. Don’t think Apple is interested
in adding containers framework to that. I guess someone could write a
kernel extension but it’s a niche use case.
WSL 2 uses a real Linux kernel doesn’t it? But it’s still a VM inside of
Hyper V so I don’t think the performance is any different. WSL 1 is a posix
emulation with binary compatibility but no container support under the
hood.
Correct me if I'm wrong about that.
- Darren
On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 11:19 Mehdi Haghgoo via Podman <
podman(a)lists.podman.io> wrote:
The container experience with podman machine on Windows and mac is
not
optimal because the containers are slow.
Mac is a Linux-based OS. So, why can't we create native containers on it
as we do on Linux?
That applies to WSL. It's kind of Linux. Why cannot we create native Linux
containers on it without resorting to Podman machine and podman clients?
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4:40 p.m.
On 9/7/23 12:51, Darren Dupre wrote:
OS X has a Mach kernel and a BSD user land. Don’t think Apple is
interested in adding containers framework to that. I guess someone
could write a kernel extension but it’s a niche use case.
WSL 2 uses a real Linux kernel doesn’t it? But it’s still a VM inside
of Hyper V so I don’t think the performance is any different. WSL 1 is
a posix emulation with binary compatibility but no container support
under the hood.
Podman uses WSL 2 and is about to release HyperV support.
Correct me if I'm wrong about that.
- Darren
On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 11:19 Mehdi Haghgoo via Podman
<podman(a)lists.podman.io> wrote:
The container experience with podman machine on Windows and mac is
not optimal because the containers are slow.
Mac is a Linux-based OS. So, why can't we create native containers
on it as we do on Linux?
That applies to WSL. It's kind of Linux. Why cannot we create
native Linux containers on it without resorting to Podman machine
and podman clients?
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