Hey, a couple of thoughts on the podman.io blog issue brought up during the last Podman community cabal call ( https://podman.io/community/meeting/notes/2021-11-18/) - Summary: Podman has a need for a low-overhead of posting blog posts; the current system involves other websites and platforms and is process-heavy. (Hopefully this is an accurate summary, lmk if not.) - One option would be to use wordpress which has a post-by-email feature... you have to keep the email you send the posts to secret / only share w people authorized to post / otherwise there is no overhead / process to getting posts live. Appears it may be possible to then import the wordpress RSS feed into the existing jekyll site with smtg like this https://github.com/MattKevan/Jekyll-feed-importer - Other option (perhaps better) - use antora instead of jekyll. GitHub pages supports antora, it lets you have a site generated from multi-repos, believe it would enable stuff like taking snippets from the podman repo's docs and pulling into the website in a diff repo. Could create another repo just for informal blog content, give everyone you'd ever want to post a blog full commit access just to that repo, antora can read in from that and use it to generate blog posts on website (and authors wouldn't need commit access to website) Relevant links: - WP post by email https://jetpack.com/support/post-by-email/ - Antora github pages support https://docs.antora.org/antora/2.3/publish-to-github-pages/ - Antora multi-repo functionality https://docs.antora.org/antora/2.3/features/#bring-together-content-from-... My experience is with Jekyll and not Antora but I am currently playing around with Antora to see if I can get a multi-repo proof-of-concept together. If someone more technically ept would like to help, let me know :) I am @duffy:fedora.im on Matrix and in the Podman channel! Le meas, ~m _______________________________________________ Podman mailing list -- podman(a)lists.podman.io To unsubscribe send an email to podman-leave(a)lists.podman.io

On 11/30/21 13:28, Máirín Duffy wrote: > Summary: Podman has a need for a low-overhead of posting blog posts; the > current system involves other websites and platforms and is > process-heavy. (Hopefully this is an accurate summary, lmk if not.) Given that blogs are a feature of jekyll, this seems odd. Is it because you have ASCIIdoc in the mix? Or is it just because the files are scattered all over multiple repos? FYI, we have an intern working on a generic Jekyll template for OSS projects, which should be ready before EOY. I'd had Podman in mind as a target for it, but of course I haven't reviewed the template work yet. And, of course, jekyll really requires all website content to be in one repo. -- -- Josh Berkus Kubernetes Community Architect OSPO, OCTO _______________________________________________ Podman mailing list -- podman(a)lists.podman.io To unsubscribe send an email to podman-leave(a)lists.podman.io

Seth, We still plan to contribute to sysadmin.  I do not think much will change there.  What we were looking for more specifically was a timely way to get little nuggets out to people quickly.  Like hey, this question came in; thought others might be interested type things. On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 10:16 AM Seth Kenlon <skenlon(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: I work on Opensource.com and redhat.com/sysadmin <http://redhat.com/sysadmin>;, and we love the Podman content we've been getting from you all. I'm happy to work on ways to make the publishing process quicker and easier for Podman articles. If a separate blog solution is best for the project, though, then we'd be interested in cross-posting, if that's of interest to you. Either way, we're here to assist, so feel free to reach out and let us know how we can best help the project. Cheers. On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 12:34 PM Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: Hey, a couple of thoughts on the podman.io <http://podman.io> blog issue brought up during the last Podman community cabal call (https://podman.io/community/meeting/notes/2021-11-18/) - Summary: Podman has a need for a low-overhead of posting blog posts; the current system involves other websites and platforms and is process-heavy. (Hopefully this is an accurate summary, lmk if not.) * One option would be to use wordpress which has a post-by-email feature... you have to keep the email you send the posts to secret / only share w people authorized to post / otherwise there is no overhead / process to getting posts live. Appears it may be possible to then import the wordpress RSS feed into the existing jekyll site with smtg like this https://github.com/MattKevan/Jekyll-feed-importer * Other option (perhaps better) - use antora instead of jekyll. GitHub pages supports antora, it lets you have a site generated from multi-repos, believe it would enable stuff like taking snippets from the podman repo's docs and pulling into the website in a diff repo. Could create another repo just for informal blog content, give everyone you'd ever want to post a blog full commit access just to that repo, antora can read in from that and use it to generate blog posts on website (and authors wouldn't need commit access to website) Relevant links: * WP post by email https://jetpack.com/support/post-by-email/ * Antora github pages support https://docs.antora.org/antora/2.3/publish-to-github-pages/ * Antora multi-repo functionality https://docs.antora.org/antora/2.3/features/#bring-together-content-from-... My experience is with Jekyll and not Antora but I am currently playing around with Antora to see if I can get a multi-repo proof-of-concept together. If someone more technically ept would like to help,  let me know :) I am @duffy:fedora.im <http://fedora.im> on Matrix and in the Podman channel! Le meas, ~m _______________________________________________ Podman mailing list -- podman(a)lists.podman.io To unsubscribe send an email to podman-leave(a)lists.podman.io _______________________________________________ Podman mailing list -- podman(a)lists.podman.io To unsubscribe send an email to podman-leave(a)lists.podman.io _______________________________________________ Podman mailing list --podman(a)lists.podman.io To unsubscribe send an email topodman-leave(a)lists.podman.io

Maybe a specific hashtag from a specific listed group of twitter accounts and use twitter as the interface? ~m On December 2, 2021 3:46:47 PM EST, Tom Sweeney <tom.sweeney(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > > More of a Twitter-esque interface. Something without the overhead of > creating and merging a PR, but still have it be indexable later on for easy > reference. > > t > > On 12/2/21 14:00, Brent Baude wrote: > > Seth, > > We still plan to contribute to sysadmin. I do not think much will change > there. What we were looking for more specifically was a timely way to get > little nuggets out to people quickly. Like hey, this question came in; > thought others might be interested type things. > > On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 10:16 AM Seth Kenlon <skenlon(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > >> I work on Opensource.com and redhat.com/sysadmin, and we love the >> Podman content we've been getting from you all. I'm happy to work on ways >> to make the publishing process quicker and easier for Podman articles. >> >> If a separate blog solution is best for the project, though, then we'd >> be interested in cross-posting, if that's of interest to you. >> >> Either way, we're here to assist, so feel free to reach out and let us >> know how we can best help the project. >> >> Cheers. >> >> On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 12:34 PM Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> >>> Hey, a couple of thoughts on the podman.io blog issue brought up >>> during the last Podman community cabal call ( >>> https://podman.io/community/meeting/notes/2021-11-18/) - >>> >>> Summary: Podman has a need for a low-overhead of posting blog posts; >>> the current system involves other websites and platforms and is >>> process-heavy. (Hopefully this is an accurate summary, lmk if not.) >>> >>> - One option would be to use wordpress which has a post-by-email >>> feature... you have to keep the email you send the posts to secret / only >>> share w people authorized to post / otherwise there is no overhead / >>> process to getting posts live. Appears it may be possible to then import >>> the wordpress RSS feed into the existing jekyll site with smtg like this >>> https://github.com/MattKevan/Jekyll-feed-importer >>> - Other option (perhaps better) - use antora instead of jekyll. >>> GitHub pages supports antora, it lets you have a site generated from >>> multi-repos, believe it would enable stuff like taking snippets from the >>> podman repo's docs and pulling into the website in a diff repo. Could >>> create another repo just for informal blog content, give everyone you'd >>> ever want to post a blog full commit access just to that repo, antora can >>> read in from that and use it to generate blog posts on website (and authors >>> wouldn't need commit access to website) >>> >>> Relevant links: >>> >>> - WP post by email https://jetpack.com/support/post-by-email/ >>> - Antora github pages support >>> https://docs.antora.org/antora/2.3/publish-to-github-pages/ >>> - Antora multi-repo functionality >>> https://docs.antora.org/antora/2.3/features/#bring-together-content-from-... >>> >>> My experience is with Jekyll and not Antora but I am currently playing >>> around with Antora to see if I can get a multi-repo proof-of-concept >>> together. If someone more technically ept would like to help, let me know >>> :) I am @duffy:fedora.im on Matrix and in the Podman channel! >>> >>> Le meas, >>> ~m >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Podman mailing list -- podman(a)lists.podman.io >>> To unsubscribe send an email to podman-leave(a)lists.podman.io >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Podman mailing list -- podman(a)lists.podman.io >> To unsubscribe send an email to podman-leave(a)lists.podman.io >> > > _______________________________________________ > Podman mailing list -- podman(a)lists.podman.io > To unsubscribe send an email to podman-leave(a)lists.podman.io > > > -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. _______________________________________________ Podman mailing list -- podman(a)lists.podman.io To unsubscribe send an email to podman-leave(a)lists.podman.io

Frankly I think the word count is irrelevant. Our organized articles, generally of higher quality, should still go to SysAdmin. But for other things, I sure wish I had a place to do stuff. I've already forgotten all of the topics I have queued up and probably lost for good. Besides that, I would like to be able to develop an online presence outside of twitter, which really isn't my thing. Brent On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 9:32 AM Scott McCarty <smccarty(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > Máirín, > Hmm, that's an interesting idea. I think there are many times the > response is sub 280 characters, but often, I'd say they are around 200-300 > words. Mostly nuggets with no intro or conclusions, just meaty little > tidbits with less context/background/etc. As Brent mentioned, a lot of the > time they are time sensitive so we want to get them out in minutes/hours, > and often the information is stale later, though often it's valid for a > long time. Today, we will publish this info on Twitter and personal blogs, > but then it's splattered all over the Internet and hard to find (heck, we > can't even remember where we put it a lot of the time. > > I hope that helps. I don't think any of us have a strong opinion on the > technical solution, basically our requirements are: > > > 1. Easy to use, no PR process > 2. Fast > 3. 200-300 words > 4. Shows up on the podman.io site somewhere obvious > > Any disagreements? > > > Best Regards > Scott M > > On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 10:48 PM Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; > wrote: > >> Maybe a specific hashtag from a specific listed group of twitter >> accounts and use twitter as the interface? >> >> ~m >> >> On December 2, 2021 3:46:47 PM EST, Tom Sweeney <tom.sweeney(a)redhat.com&gt; >> wrote: >>> >>> More of a Twitter-esque interface. Something without the overhead of >>> creating and merging a PR, but still have it be indexable later on for easy >>> reference. >>> >>> t >>> >>> On 12/2/21 14:00, Brent Baude wrote: >>> >>> Seth, >>> >>> We still plan to contribute to sysadmin. I do not think much will >>> change there. What we were looking for more specifically was a timely way >>> to get little nuggets out to people quickly. Like hey, this question came >>> in; thought others might be interested type things. >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 10:16 AM Seth Kenlon <skenlon(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> I work on Opensource.com and redhat.com/sysadmin, and we love the >>>> Podman content we've been getting from you all. I'm happy to work on ways >>>> to make the publishing process quicker and easier for Podman articles. >>>> >>>> If a separate blog solution is best for the project, though, then we'd >>>> be interested in cross-posting, if that's of interest to you. >>>> >>>> Either way, we're here to assist, so feel free to reach out and let us >>>> know how we can best help the project. >>>> >>>> Cheers. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 12:34 PM Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey, a couple of thoughts on the podman.io blog issue brought up >>>>> during the last Podman community cabal call ( >>>>> https://podman.io/community/meeting/notes/2021-11-18/) - >>>>> >>>>> Summary: Podman has a need for a low-overhead of posting blog posts; >>>>> the current system involves other websites and platforms and is >>>>> process-heavy. (Hopefully this is an accurate summary, lmk if not.) >>>>> >>>>> - One option would be to use wordpress which has a post-by-email >>>>> feature... you have to keep the email you send the posts to secret / only >>>>> share w people authorized to post / otherwise there is no overhead / >>>>> process to getting posts live. Appears it may be possible to then import >>>>> the wordpress RSS feed into the existing jekyll site with smtg like this >>>>> https://github.com/MattKevan/Jekyll-feed-importer >>>>> - Other option (perhaps better) - use antora instead of jekyll. >>>>> GitHub pages supports antora, it lets you have a site generated from >>>>> multi-repos, believe it would enable stuff like taking snippets from the >>>>> podman repo's docs and pulling into the website in a diff repo. Could >>>>> create another repo just for informal blog content, give everyone you'd >>>>> ever want to post a blog full commit access just to that repo, antora can >>>>> read in from that and use it to generate blog posts on website (and authors >>>>> wouldn't need commit access to website) >>>>> >>>>> Relevant links: >>>>> >>>>> - WP post by email https://jetpack.com/support/post-by-email/ >>>>> - Antora github pages support >>>>> https://docs.antora.org/antora/2.3/publish-to-github-pages/ >>>>> - Antora multi-repo functionality >>>>> https://docs.antora.org/antora/2.3/features/#bring-together-content-from-... >>>>> >>>>> My experience is with Jekyll and not Antora but I am currently >>>>> playing around with Antora to see if I can get a multi-repo >>>>> proof-of-concept together. If someone more technically ept would like to >>>>> help, let me know :) I am @duffy:fedora.im on Matrix and in the >>>>> Podman channel! >>>>> >>>>> Le meas, >>>>> ~m >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Podman mailing list -- podman(a)lists.podman.io >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to podman-leave(a)lists.podman.io >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Podman mailing list -- podman(a)lists.podman.io >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to podman-leave(a)lists.podman.io >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Podman mailing list -- podman(a)lists.podman.io >>> To unsubscribe send an email to podman-leave(a)lists.podman.io >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> _______________________________________________ >> Podman mailing list -- podman(a)lists.podman.io >> To unsubscribe send an email to podman-leave(a)lists.podman.io >> > > > -- > > -- > > The final of a six part series on open source and product management: https://opensource.com/article/21/10/open-source-product-market > -- > > Scott McCarty > Product Management - RHEL Server > Email: smccarty(a)redhat.com > Phone: 312-660-3535 > Cell: 330-807-1043 > Web: http://crunchtools.com > > _______________________________________________ > Podman mailing list -- podman(a)lists.podman.io > To unsubscribe send an email to podman-leave(a)lists.podman.io >