[Podman] Re: is podman (and friends) reasonably complete under recent ubuntu?

On 10/20/21 5:29 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > predictably, i suggested fedora would be a better choice, but > that's not an option given corporate choice of ubuntu for dev > boxes. so the question is, will that still provide a reasonably > complete set of container tools relative to fedora using just > standard packages? There's likely a MASSIVE difference in the QA between Ubuntu, and Fedora/CentOS/RHEL. As in, both upstream CI and downstream package-level testing is vastly more faithful to the actual user-experience in Fedora/CentOS/RHEL. I cannot speak to the distro-level testing in Ubuntu. But I would hazard to guess that even Debian's downstream testing is very likely superior to Ubuntu's (even if if only because it necessarily happens earlier). What I can say for sure is, the upstream podman Ubuntu CI test environment is highly customized with bleeding-edge, out-of-distro dependent packages. This is required even to get podman to build properly. Whereas on Fedora, all dependencies are eventually hitting the normal distribution channels. i.e. What you use in Fedora is very close to what we test upstream. Our upstream Ubuntu CI is really more of a very basic "Can it work" check, as oppose to "Can it work, and function for regular users". That part is left to Debian/Ubuntu downstream testing, which I have no actual knowledge about.