On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 1:25 PM Daniel Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com> wrote:

On 1/16/24 06:49, Matthias Apitz wrote:

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Hello,

For the purpose of the Subject: there is a tutorial at IBM.com:

https://developer.ibm.com/tutorials/running-x86-64-containers-mac-silicon-m1...

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I've followed this tutorial, with a small exception, see below.

The first step is to 'init' the machine with:

$ podman machine init --image-path

~/yourFedoraImageFolder/fedora-coreos-39.20231204.3.3-qemu.x86_64.qcow2.xz intel

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Extracting compressed file: intel_fedora-coreos-39.20231204.3.3-qemu.x86_64.qco… Image resized. Machine init complete To start your machine run:

podman machine start intel

Which worked fine. Now, before starting the machine, the tutorial asks to remove the following lines from the config file ~/.config/containers/podman/machine/qemu/intel.json:

"-machine", "q35,accel=hvf:tcg", "-cpu", "host",

These line are not there 1:1 and I removed these lines:

$ diff .config/containers/podman/machine/qemu/intel.json .config/containers/podman/machine/qemu/intel.json.saved2 6a7,12

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"-accel", "hvf", "-accel", "tcg", "-cpu", "host", which seems to me correct to remove the HVF QEMU accelerator which only is supported on x86 chips.

Starting the machine now with:

$ podman machine start intel Di 16 Jan 2024 12:23:33 CET Starting machine "intel" Waiting for VM ...

hangs for ever and the QEMU process has 100% CPU utilization:

top PID COMMAND %CPU TIME #TH #WQ #PORT MEM PURG CMPRS PGRP 10802 qemu-system- 99.6 23:09.43 8/1 0 27 163M 0B 0B 10800

Any ideas? Thanks

matthias

Sergio any ideas?

It's definitely not enough to change the lines indicated in the guide. You'd need to makes, at least, these changes: "CmdLine": [ - "/opt/homebrew/bin/qemu-system-aarch64", - "-accel", - "hvf", + "/opt/homebrew/bin/qemu-system-x86_64", "-accel", "tcg", - "-cpu", - "host", "-M", - "virt,highmem=on", - "-drive", - "file=/opt/homebrew/share/qemu/edk2-aarch64-code.fd,if=pflash,format=raw,readonly=on", - "-drive", - "file=/Users/slp/.local/share/containers/podman/machine/qemu/intel_ovmf_vars.fd,if=pflash,format=raw", + "q35", With this, after a looooooong time (5-10 minutes), I get a running x86_64 linux machine, and I can run x86_64 containers on it. That said, I'm not a big fan of this way of running x86_64 VMs on aarch64, as this is full system emulation and the performance it's going to be quite poor. Instead, a better option would be using an aarch64 VM with a distro extended have to binfmt_misc and qemu-user-static, so can rely on usermode emulation instead, which would yield significantly better results (specially if we eventually support other userspace emulators, such as fex-emu or box64). Sergio.

El día miércoles, enero 17, 2024 a las 10:58:13 +0100, Sergio Lopez escribió:

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That said, I'm not a big fan of this way of running x86_64 VMs on aarch64, as this is full system emulation and the performance it's going to be quite poor. Instead, a better option would be using an aarch64 VM with a distro extended have to binfmt_misc and qemu-user-static, so can rely on usermode emulation instead, which would yield significantly better results (specially if we eventually support other userspace emulators, such as fex-emu or box64).

I've built the podman container, which runs SuSE SLES, PostgreSQL server and our application server fine and fast enough: 85c48763d727:~ # ps ax PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 1 pts/0 Ss+ 0:00 /bin/sh -c /usr/local/bin/start.sh 25 ? S 0:01 /usr/local/sisis-pap/pgsql-15.1/bin/postmaster -D / 28 ? Ss 0:00 postgres: logger 29 ? Ss 0:02 postgres: checkpointer 30 ? Ss 0:03 postgres: background writer 32 ? Ss 0:09 postgres: walwriter 33 ? Ss 0:00 postgres: autovacuum launcher 34 ? Ss 0:00 postgres: logical replication launcher 41 pts/0 S+ 0:00 sshd: /usr/sbin/sshd -D [listener] 0 of 10-100 star 49 ? Rs 0:00 sshd: root@pts/1 51 pts/1 Ss 0:00 -bash 458 pts/1 S 0:00 /opt/lib/sisis/avserver/bin/AVServer -p 8076 518 pts/1 R+ 0:00 ps ax matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub I am not at war with Russia. Я не воюю с Россией. Ich bin nicht im Krieg mit Russland.